Abe would always, he would say to me when he went to run through one of his shows or went to see one of his shows in the theater, he would always walk behind the set. He wouldn't watch because he wanted to know that there was always noise happening on stage. He listened for the noise. He knew if there was no noise that he was in trouble.

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@underscoredpodcasts·June 26, 2026