The the joy to me the great pleasure and joy of fashion is that it actually is much more present in our lives than art is. You know, I think to to see art, one has to seek it out. But, you know, when you're walking down the street, you can see so much information and create these beautiful narratives in your mind by seeing what other people are wearing.

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@underscoredpodcasts·July 18, 2026