We have such a level of trust that we know whatever we say to each other, it stays there. We know where to give each other the best advice. We know how to and there's no ulterior motive for no, you know, no playing games. And that's how we like it because I think we both have had so many people say, oh, you're great, this and that, they don't, you know, they don't give you the real story, but we've always been honest with each other on that front.
